An Open Challenge to Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul

Most of America wants to end the war. A recent poll in Iowa had 54% of Republicans wanting all of the troops home within 6 months. And that's Republicans.

If Kucinich and Paul really want to win, then they need to try harder to dispel the MSM brainwashing. To win, they must make these points clear before Feb 5th.
  • If a huge percentage of America wants the troops home within 6 months, why are the "top tier" candidates at the top? It makes no sense.1
  • The war was started on lies, there were no weapons... but now we have to stay forever? When we can't even afford basic services anymore? It makes no sense.

All of the Top Tier candidates will continue the war, while the two that pledge to end the war are pushed aside... the only thing that does make sense is: Ike was right.

The Military-Industrial Complex, the war machine now owns the media and are openly pushing the pro-war candidates- illustrated perfectly by NBC (GE) appealing to the NV Supreme Court to remove Kucinich from the Debate, and the NY Times excluding the two ant-war candidates, even though Ron Paul just won 2nd in Nevada!

Now- throw off the apathy and hopelessness- we can stand up to this war machine. How? By locking arms and uniting like the Bugs in Bug's Life.

We Can End the War on Feb 5th
NOT by Voting- but by being there to count the vote.

Kucinich and Paul also need to say something about the secret vote counting. Who wants a system where easily-hackable machines count the vote? Imagine if on their national tv appearances between now and Super Tuesday, they both encouraged voters to go down to the polls and ask for a hand count at that precinct. Congress isn't going to pass that law, so it's up to citizens in their counties to reclaim their right to a transparent election process.

If every Freedom Loving American could spare a few hours of a Tuesday night, we could save this country.

Go down to your polling location near closing time- NOT alone, but with a group of friends and a video camera. Alone they will just shush you away, but with a group, you will be able to reason with them, and if not, at least you'll get their rationale for a secret count on youtube.

The poll workers will probably tell you they've taken an oath to allow the machines to do the counting. They put the papers into the box and it sends the data to the central tabulator, a hackable windows computer, connected to the internet. This windows computer totals the votes and tells us who won. There is really no way of know if that is the true vote, because it's all counted by the machines. Even if you have a paper trail, it's useless if the machines are allowed to tally the result.

What's needed are citizens to demand a transparent count. In one precinct the number of votes ranges from 20 - 1000, a few hours at most to hand count, then post the results on the window and on the internet. Citizen Vote Verification.

One idea is to wait til after they steal it, then we'll try to prove the fraud.... or we could be on hand election night to ask for a transparent count. Which makes more sense?

When the polls workers give you grief, ask them things like:
  • Is secret vote counting Constitutional?
  • Who would want hackable computers to be the sole source of the election results?
  • Who set this system up and why?
  • Why not hand count just to doublecheck?
  • What's the harm in verifying the vote?

Videocam their responses.
Good Luck.

1. For the argument, "it's because other issues are driving voters this year, the war is out." BUllSHit. The war is where all of our money is going, so even for people that don't care about innocents dying for a phony 'war on terror', they know we need to stop throwing money down the drain.

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Why can't we have a vote

Anonymous
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Why can't we have a vote counting system that's just like our Jury system. I remember I got a letter in the mail from the Superior Court of Los Angeles telling me that I MUST report to Jury duty, and guess what... I HAD TO GO! I went, and so did almost everybody else that got the same letter, and we DID OUR DUTY! What's wrong with that? It's completely random, and cannot be messed with because there would be too many people from too many walks of life, and nobody from ANY of the political camps would be allowed anywhere near the voting places. How about that, eh?

As for the comment above about ALL our money going toward the war. That's not correct. You forget that our tax dollars are also being used to subsidize giving Chinese students a free ride at our colleges on the condition that they major in fields of study like Mathematics, Science and Technology, Physics, and just about anything that would give China a leg up against us economically by being able to move all the high-tech jobs over there.

Oh yeah, let us not forget that our tax dollars are also subsidizing multinational for profit corporations such as Boeing, TRW, and others who let your assume their risk with your tax dollars, and they keep all the profit for themselves. Not to mention that your taxes are subsidizing football, basketball, baseball, and hockey.... Oh, and did I forget that we subsidize giving foreign aid to just about any despot we can prop up and finance to be our enemy at a later date?

Just a few other things to think about.

Why is this open letter only

Anonymous
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Why is this open letter only addressed Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul?
Mike Gravel has a solid anti war - anti nwo platform. Isn't this the same tactic as major media are using against Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul?

Gravel should be helping-

Anonymous
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Gravel should be helping- but he gets even less press than Kucinich.

Ron Paul has the movement behind him to really accomplish this, but he doesn't seem like he understands the theft of our elections.

My understanding is that in

Abbybwood
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My understanding is that in every precinct in the United States, regardless of the machines used for voting, that every voter is allowed to request a PAPER BALLOT.

The word should be spread that everyone should request paper ballots from now on.

And we most definitely should show up in groups with digital video cameras just before the polls close to let them know we are there to COUNT THE VOTES.

Remember the quote from Stalin: "It is not important who votes, it is who COUNTS the votes."

Everyone has the right to

Tom Dennen
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Everyone has the right to use a paper ballot. Ask for one.

It's one of the last rights you have left.

Mike Gravel is great on

ty
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Mike Gravel is great on foreign policy and social issues but sucks on economics. Mike Gravel wants to increase the tax burden on the poor and middle classes by imposing a National Sales Tax("FairTax") which is also Mike Huckabee's idea too. Mike Gravel also wants to impose a carbon tax on us. Ron Paul is no better. While Ron Paul doesn't want to add any new taxes he wants to get rid of all the federal taxes we currently have now. Paul also wants to lower and get rid of tariffs too. He wants the government to have no money to pay for anything which forces the government to either borrow money or print its own money to pay for things. Ron Paul has no interest in fair elections, fair media, or fair anything. His solution to everything is the free market meaning freedom without responsibility for one's own actions.

Are Alex Jones and company

ben
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Are Alex Jones and company part of the problem?

I posted this story on RonPaulWarRoom.com
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=2567

and Kurt Nimmo removed it! Are they afraid of citizens actually counting the votes? I did trim the original post, then add this :

Imagine if Alex Jones pounded this point on his radio show and websites every day until Feb 5th: Citizens- get your ass down to the polls and Demand a Transparent Vote Count- this is America Damnit, and in free countries the votes are counted in public!

Alex could inspire thousands and make the difference. Alex, Paul, Steve, and Kurt- you guys have woken up millions… now it’s time for a focused action on Feb 5th, please help. If you disagree and think this is a bad idea- why?

Why did they remove this story when they leave all kinds of other crap on that site? Why don't Alex Jones and crew want people to hand count the votes?

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