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Kucinich Lets Supporters Down- Gives New Lousy Excuse for Not Introducing Impeachment
"Oh no, the media might say something bad about me" Sounds like Conyers...
Pathetic change of excuse on Impeachment
From David Swanson this morning...
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_sw_080211_kuci...
"Kucinich had planned to introduce articles of impeachment against Bush on the day of the State of the Union and then changed his mind. He did so because of the attacks he is under in his primary election in Cleveland, where the corporate media that has long opposed him paints national issues as in conflict with providing services to constituents. The election will consume Kucinich's time for the next few weeks, but he has not dropped his plans to eventually introduce the articles of impeachment."
Well this is what he posted on his own Congressional site, after everyone was watching C-SPAN waiting for him to introduce Impeachment as he has promised several days earlier...
http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=82672"After making a statement on the floor of the House of Representatives last week indicating my intent to introduce articles of impeachment against George W. Bush, I met with members of the Judiciary Committee. After that brief meeting, I am hopeful there will be an inquiry by the
Judiciary Committee. I will give them the opportunity to proceed before introducing articles of impeachment."
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the criminals are in charge
the criminals are in charge of the opposition to themselves.
PNAC has been planning their
PNAC has been planning their adventure for years. It is not far fetched to think that they planted their opposition.
AIPAC works like a well
AIPAC works like a well OILED machine
Jewish Telegraphic Agency
Jewish Telegraphic Agency has taken notice
Kucinich denies AIPAC meeting
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/106922.html
The people would like to
The people would like to Impeach the Government at this point.
He was NEVER planning to do
He was NEVER planning to do anything of the sort. And he knows it. He's a liar and traitor, just llike ALL the rest of them.... except for Ron Paul.
April 19, 2007 Cleveland
What happened to that promise Dennis, did AIPAC squash that too? Lying sack of $#!t
Has he been a stalling fraud the entire time, or are they able to control him... recall one stated goal of MK-ultra was to control foreign politicians... could they have turned their tools onto domestic politicians?
yes, what happened with the
yes, what happened with the 9/11 investigation? It has become apparent that the Bushies control every member of Congress and the ALL need to be replaced.
Will the Ron Paul supporter
Will the Ron Paul supporter who says everyone by Ron is a "liar and traitor" please explain why the good doctor Paul has not introduced articles of impeachment?
Please, do tell. Why won't Paul move to impeach, if he is a true patriot?
"Except Ron Paul," b***
"Except Ron Paul," b*** s***! When Paul betrayed the 911 Truth Movement he showed his true establishment loyalties. He is now slithering back under the Reaganesque, anti-choice, anti-social program Texas rock where he belongs. He talked the talk up to a point (911) but if it walks like a duck.... Also, he gets to keep the millions we raised for him on the internet. I want my money back.
and the same situation as
and the same situation as Kucinich- I have to focus on my Congressional race. Both have a large support base, I think we have been set up.
The changes taking place in
The changes taking place in our political system relative to extra-constitutional powers and excessive secrecy relate to the vexing problem of an over-valued petrodollar trying to stay solvent in an era of ever increasing oil depletion (demand/supply imbalance) and rising energy costs.
Our government is preparing itself to deal with large scale civil unrest as our economy and standard of living come under increasing pressure. What we are witnessing is how the world will attempt to cope with the end of the age of oil.
Ron Paul publicly said he'd
Ron Paul publicly said he'd be for a new investigation into 9/11:
I hope everyone is aware of the NYC 9/11 Initiative that has just started circulating for signatures for the November Ballot. Here's the information:
www.nyc911initiative.org
I always thought Kucinich was no more than a DLC shill to pull all the progressives away from any meaningful third party attempts. Kucinich is all show and no go. Plus I feel we have all been misled about where Impeachment must begin. With Nixon it began with a SENATE COMMITTEE doing an investigation of Watergate then led to THE SENATE ordering the HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE to write up articles of Impeachment. Perhaps we should be focusing our efforts on the Senate side of things. (Google it)
As to Ron Paul, he's still in the race he said "up until the convention". He has NOT dropped out! I'm glad he's fighting for his Congressional seat. Check recent election statistics. He's still pulling in votes!
It's a LLOOOONNNNGGGG time until the September Republican Convention folks. McCain's health could go, or the Vietnam Vets Against McCain who have nick-named him "The Songbird" (NO HERO HE), or the fact that he was born in Panama and is NOT a "natural born citizen!!" may get some traction. Don't count Ron Paul out of ANYTHING just yet!! Here's the speech he gave at CPAC:
http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/news/#RonPaulspeechat...
Kucinich said the AIPAC
Kucinich said the AIPAC threat/incident did not happen, but his actions show that it probably did.
ADL, AIPAC, JDL, SPLC are
ADL, AIPAC, JDL, SPLC are not omnipotent. Yes, they can destroy individial political dissenters sequentially, but can not deal with more than 3 at the same time. Even now, with Kucinich and Ron Paul in their cross-hair, their resources are stretched to the limit. Even Cynthia McKinney turned out to be a formidable opponent. Had she waited till present election cycle, we might have seen others standing up to the elites.
Blackfeather7 Right...check
Blackfeather7
or this one where he totally denies the movement. and blames it on Muslims.Right...check out this one in which Paul says "absolutely not" about support for 911 Truth.
If Kucinich is considered a
If Kucinich is considered a "liar & a traitor" then by the logic of the commentors above, Ron Paul MUST be considered an even bigger "liar & traitor".
Ron Paul won't even support impeachment. He has publicly stated that it is the "responsibility of the other party". How is that admirable?
Further, that lame video clip offered as evidence that Paul supports a new investigation is extremely inadequate. Watch the clip, don't trust the intentionally misleading headline. In the clip Ron Paul says that he supports an "investigation of government ineptness"! He even takes time to qualify the occurrence on 9/11 of "government ineptness" with a "maybe". These are the words of an informational gatekeeper NOT a truthteller or truthseeker. If We Are Change had any integrity they would remove that video clip, or at least change the Non-Truthful title of it.
There has been lengthy discussion of Ron Paul on 911 truth websites & it has been thoroughly established that Paul is explicitly Anti-9/11 Truth. And many of us in NYC know it.
Personally I would not label either of these men "traitors". But when it comes to impeachment or 9/11 truth Ron Paul is an idiot. And his supporters just cannot recognize reality on these points.
For an article on this latest Kucinich rumor I recommend,
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/30931
It actually explains (using facts & logic!) why a campaign staffer would not be present in congressional offices.
This is the same article
This is the same article from David Swanson. Whether or not this incident took place, Kucinich backed down on Impeachment and is changing excuses. He is allowing the media to dictate his actions in Congress, not a good message to send to your constituents.
The resolution to impeach
The resolution to impeach Cheney has not been withdrawn by Kucinich.
Ron Paul never has, and never will, stand up for impeachment of our current regime.
I think I read somewhere
I think I read somewhere that other congressional members threatened to censure Dennis if he didn't take back what he said about introducing articles of impeachment. That would only give fuel to the corporate interests who are trying to steal his congressional seat. Sounds to me like he was forced to back down while he fights for his congressional seat. A tactical retreat, perhaps? I wouldn't give up on Dennis just yet.
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Remember he's part of the
Remember he's part of the goverment does anyone believe anything these ass clowns say anymore.
One really has to be a fool,
One really has to be a fool, and more than likely a plant, to try and undermine Ron Paul's credibility because he does not challenge the official 9/11 version directly. That's exactly what the Lobby and our mainstream controlled press would love to see him do so that they could destroy him immediately. He said that he would support an investigation of 9/11 and that should be enough for everyone for now.
Despite being spit upon for 20 years by the establishment, Ron Paul has never sold out. Thus don't be fooled by the plants who try and divide the good people among us. In the worst case a beautiful movement will develop thanks to Ron Paul and plants beware - the battle has only just begun and no amount of your crap will divide us.
Correction: Ron Paul said he
Correction:
Ron Paul said he would support an investigation of government INEPTNESS.
See? That last word is important, it modifies the entire meaning. Are you aware that you are not saying the full truth? Did you even watch that video? I did & I wrote out a transcript of it too, it's short anyway. Doing so helps make it very clear what was said.
"mainstream controlled press
"mainstream controlled press would love to see him do so that they could destroy him immediately" People need to stop with this nonsense. You stand up to a bully not back down and let them have their way. That is what got us here in the first place.
Kucinich is not a DLC shill
Kucinich is not a DLC shill but Ron Paul is a Republican shill. Why criticize Kucinich for not supporting a third party effort yet you let Ron Paul off the hook when he doesn't support a third party effort either?
The only third party that has already chosen their presidential nominee is Socialist Party USA. So Kucinich supporters are free to support any third party candidate they want. Kucinich has not told his supporters not to support a third party candidate nor has he given an endorsement to Clinton or Obama.
Ron Paul is a
Ron Paul is a counterrevolutionary who seeks to thwart the progressive agenda by adopting certain elements to coopt it. He seeks to divert progressives to libertarianism and neoliberalism.
Over the holidays,
Over the holidays, Congressman Mike Michaud wrote the following letter to House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, calling for impeachment hearings of Vice President Dick Cheney. Michaud is a conservative and Blue Dog Democrat from Maine.
He is NOT among the 25 co-sponsors of Rep. Dennis Kucinich's H Res 333 (also known as H Res 799), a resolution stipulating articles of impeachment against Cheney. He is also NOT among a group of Judiciary Committee Members led by Rep. Robert Wexler who have called for hearings to begin, and who sent their own letter to Conyers in January. But Michaud shares the position of Congress members Wexler, Luis Gutierrez, and Anthony Weiner that hearings should be held first and articles drafted when and if called for by the evidence exposed.
Aside from Kucinich's articles for impeachment, it is important to focus on these other people's efforts and on the progress being made by these other groups of Congress members pushing for the impeachment of Cheney.
See: http://impeachcheney.org
Maine has been a hotbed of impeachment activism in recent months. Efforts have been led by an activist coalition and a group of lawyers called "Maine Lawyers for Democracy." Citizens have staged sit-ins in the offices of Rep. Michaud and also Rep. Tom Allen, demanding support for impeachment. Those efforts may be paying off, and Michaud appears in the letter below to have grasped some of his constituents' main arguments for impeachment. Iraq is also one of the first issues Michaud mentions in his letter to Conyers.
While Conyers is widely understood to be obeying pressure from Nancy Pelosi in refusing to begin impeachment proceedings, Michaud has not written to Pelosi. Constituents of Subcommittee Chairman Jerrold Nadler were arrested in his Brooklyn office on Wednesday sitting-in to demand he begin impeachment hearings. Michaud has not written to Nadler. Like Wexler and his allies, Michaud has chosen to write to the Chair of the full committee and the recognized expert on impeachment: John Conyers. Conyers has, of course, published a book documenting at length most of the abuses that Michaud refers to in his letter.
Bellow is the full text of Michaud's letter. Please let's continue to support these other movements that are still in process for impeachment, and let's not get dragged down in negativity. We must keep sending our own emails, faxes and letters to Nancy Pelosi and John Conyers. We must keep on keeping on -- not with with an untenable disarray of anarchical upheaval -- but with the power of making profound changes within the just laws and orderliness of our civilized society.
Dear Chairman Conyers,
I write today to request that you include vigorous hearings into the abuses of power by this Administration and include impeachment hearings of Vice President Richard Cheney in the Judiciary Committee schedule for the second session of the 110th Congress.
As you are aware, the House of Representatives voted on November 7th to send a resolution of impeachment of Vice President Cheney to the Judiciary Committee. I urge you to commence these proceedings. There is no doubt that at the very least this Administration has dangerously expanded the scope of executive authority and flaunted the constitutionally defined separation of powers.
Serious allegations have been raised against the Vice President regarding his role in mischaracterizing information that led to the invasion of Iraq, in similarly mischaracterizing information about Iran's nuclear program, the outing of a CIA agent as political retaliation, the abuse of detainees in contravention of the Geneva Conventions, and the illegal wiretapping of American citizens. As a recent poll indicates, 70% of the American public believes that the Vice President has abused his power.
This is not an attack on Vice President Cheney or any other member of this Administration. Impeachment investigations must not be about the man or his personal life; they must focus on whether the office of the Vice President has illegally expanded its power or abused the law. Expansions and potential abuses of power by this Administration become precedents for future ones, which lead to further erosions of our constitutional rights. That is why these investigations must be held with the utmost seriousness of purpose and must lay all the facts on the table. We do not know what the result of any investigation will be, but this is the only way to restore the faith of the American people in their government.
There must be no other purpose for these proceedings than to protect our Constitution and to hold individuals accountable if they have broken the law. Most importantly, we must act in a way that will heal the growing bitter divide within our country and end the disillusionment that many Americans feel toward their government.
Thank you for your consideration of this issue of such great importance. I look forward to working with you to strengthen our democracy and our nation.
Sincerely,
Michael H. Michaud
Member of Congress
I agree with Yohiel. The
I agree with Yohiel. The eyes and ears of the world are aimed at the US right now, and it is a grand circus that the Illuminati and the mainstream media are providing. Hillary Clinton is the Illuminati’s choice as the next US president, and with good reason: She is one of the most influential in that global group.
The Illuminati also have their reasons for squelching the impeachment proceedings and for rigging the voting process so that various candidates in each party come out on top in one state or another. As long as those in Congress and the media, who are "connected" to this charade, remain hopeful of the Illuminati getting their way, they will stick to Illuminati-approved topics and avoid critical issues. This keeps the true state of the union under wraps along with keeping the public uncertain about whom to believe and whom to trust in what is relentlessly publicized as an Al Queda-terrorized world. How much more obvious can it be that the only candidates who are not under the thumb of the Illuminati are those who are all but excluded from media attention?
Please friends, don not succumb to fear and anger. It is up to us not to lose heart in knowing that co-parallel to the Illuminati’s nefarious efforts to control the world, there is a strong movement afoot to derail their dark plan. With the higher frequencies of the Earth in manifestation right now, magnifying all characteristics and behaviors, the “good” clearly appears to be better and the “bad” is clearly appearing worse. The torture and killing of those who held or were vying for prominent leadership roles in the world are part of this exacerbated energetic force. Likewise are the indiscriminate killings and the brutality within families and acquaintances. These kinds of incidents will continue until the energy with dark tentacles that initiates them runs its course.
We must not fall into fear, that most pernicious tool and the fuel of the darkness! A magnified energy at its core and correspondingly stronger now, fear forms cracks in the psyche that become entryways for dark tentacles. We must keep foremost in our thoughts that always Light is stronger—Light is the same as Love, the most powerful force in the universe. We must keep our light steady as a fortress that the darkness cannot scale.
Eventually all leaders of all nations will be honest, wise and capable souls. Hang in there. Have faith. It's true.
Question: What is going to
Question: What is going to happen when this MAJOR lawsuit (with quite obvious and serious merit) is heard in California?
Clinton will be done and probably on her way to prison. Then there's Obama and Rezko. We have not heard the last of Obama's shenanigans with that guy.
The planet will be toast with McCain as POTUS and Huckabee would most certainly bring on Armageddon because, "God told" him to.
Never mind the economic collapse that is about to hit.
My chief concern in this election is our Constitution. There is only one candidate I heard discuss the way our rights have been legislated away since 9/11. Ron Paul.
Out of all the people who live in the United States, was this REALLY the best crop of candidates we could present to the people for their vetting?
Mike Gravel was completely on message when he said at one of the first debates, (referring to Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Richardson, Biden and Dodd): "THESE PEOPLE SCARE ME!!!!"
Out of all the people who
ain't that the truth... and it's so obvious, everyone knows it, we just need to take back/over the media
Mike Rivero "Kucinich is
Mike Rivero "Kucinich is apparently denying the story that pressure was put on him to drop impeachment as the price for continuing to serve in Congress.
Which pretty much tells us, together with the fact that he has again failed to actually do anything, that the story is dead-on accurate."
Kucinich GONE, Edwards GONE.
Kucinich GONE, Edwards GONE. Paul gone. We notice how the "lie-beral" media forces all the progressives to bite the dust in favor of the remaining CONSERVO-NAZI (DemoCROOK or RepubliTHUG), CORPORATE FASCISTS? Three warmongers against one peacemaker, three centrists (say RIGHT WING) against one REAL progressive. Not an even chance, maybe not even a snowball's chance, but then at least I get someone to vote FOR too.
Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still evil......
I recommend we finally move forward and embrace a third party candidate for president, one that has integrity, intelligence and is INCORRUPTIBLE. I personally will not vote for anything less. I say it's time to give Ralph Nader the job, and a chance to set this ship of state on the right course.
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I see a dream ticket of Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney in my mind. Cindy Sheehan in the cabinet. Some more new and fresh faces. And sure, invite Obama into the administration if the Rezko story turns out to be false.
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Time to give the Greens and other LIBERALS & PROGRESSIVES a job straightening this mess out. DUMP THE DUOPOLY, DUMP THE CORRUPT 2-party system. DUMP THE CORPORATE FASCIST 2-HEADED WAR PARTY MONSTER! America, make your vote REALLY count, vote out the incumbents in CON-gress and replace them with a 3rd party candidate!
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WE WILL BE HEARD, and when we are, we will finally prevail.
This Cleveland Plain Dealer
This Cleveland Plain Dealer writer said he was asked about Impeachment
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/ne...
"U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich defended his call to impeach
President Bush and Vice President Cheney for invading Iraq,
a move his 10th Congressional District opponents say is
unnecessary.
"History will impeach Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush for
this wrong-headed mistake they've made. We've got
other issues we have to focus on," including jobs and
health care, said Cleveland Councilman Joe Cimperman, during
an hour-long debate with all five candidates taped Monday at
Time Warner Cable."
I don't understand why he defends Impeachment but is waiting until after this election. He would have more 'integrity now' if he introduced Impeachment of Bush and stood behind it in these debates. Cimperman needs to be called out on the fact that the Constitution is the law of the land and calls for Impeachment when a president breaks the law. A Congressman takes an oath of office to defend and protect the Constitution. It sounds like he is already backing down from the job. Kucinich needs to point this out in the debate and stand strong, not bow to pressure from the corporate media.
Here is a great commentary
Here is a great commentary on the matter...
"Then I see that Dennis Kucinich backed off of his impeachment effort, shortly after a visit from AIPAC and sundry. Word has it they guaranteed his seat in the next round. Was his seat in danger? Does that matter? Did this visit influence his choice? I don’t know that either. What I do know is that there is no honorable reason for him to have backed off. Either he had his price or someone told him they knew where his family lived. I don’t buy the re-election support thing. It sounds like something they cooked up to hide the offer he couldn’t refuse."
http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/
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